U.S. ELECTION ASSISTANCE COMMISSION

 

                                   PUBLIC HEARING

 

 

 

                               Tuesday, April 26, 2005

                              Commencing at 12:30 p.m.

 

 

 

 

               Commissioners Present:

 

               Chair Gracia Hillman

 

               Vice-Chair Paul DeGregorio

 

               Commissioner Ray Martinez

 

               Commissioner DeForest Soaries


 

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           1                 P R O C E E D I N G S

 

           2          CHAIR HILLMAN:  This hearing will get

 

           3      organized, please, so we can get started.

 

           4      I'm asking that all members of the audience

 

           5      please be certain to turn off your cell

 

           6      phones, pagers, any other electronic device

 

           7      that might distract from the proceedings of

 

           8      this hearing.

 

           9               Thank you.  This is a public

 

          10      hearing of the United States Election

 

          11      Assistance Commission.  The purpose of the

 

          12      hearing is to receive testimony and

 

          13      comments on proposed voluntary guidance

 

          14      that the Election Assistance Commission has

 

          15      issued on the implementation of Statewide

 

          16      Voter Registration Lists.

 

          17               We have two panels.  And at the

 

          18      conclusion of the second panel, we have

 

          19      four members of the public who have

 

          20      requested to testify at the third session.

 

          21      And we will get to that at the conclusion

 

          22      of our second panel.

 

          23               The first panel is assembled.  It

 

          24      is a presentation of the Voluntary


 

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           1      Guidelines.  The Commission did assemble a

 

           2      working group to assist us in the

 

           3      preparation of the proposed voluntary

 

           4      guidance.  And Commissioner Martinez,

 

           5      before we get to the hearing, do you have

 

           6      any summary or comment about the working

 

           7      group?

 

           8          COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ:  Thank you,

 

           9      Madam Chair.  And I will -- I know that our

 

          10      first panel, including our general counsel

 

          11      and our two panelists will address in more

 

          12      detail the working group that was

 

          13      assembled.

 

          14               But as a quick start to this

 

          15      particular hearing, we did solicit the

 

          16      comments of and the participation of a 15

 

          17      or so election, state and local election

 

          18      administrators from around the country who

 

          19      will have a direct or who had the direct

 

          20      responsibility of implementing these

 

          21      Statewide Voter Registration Databases.

 

          22      And we did that, as our counsel will

 

          23      explain, I'm sure, by going to the chairs,

 

          24      the respective chairs of our two statutory


 

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           1      advisory boards, the Board of Advisors and

 

           2      the Standards Board, and asking for them to

 

           3      assemble members from their respective

 

           4      statutory boards to contribute folks to

 

           5      comprise this 15 or so member working group

 

           6      that we worked with over a couple of days

 

           7      and have been in communication with in

 

           8      developing the draft guidance.

 

           9               So that sort of sets the stage if

 

          10      you will, Madam Chair, and I'm sure the

 

          11      panelists will expand upon that.  Thank

 

          12      you.

 

          13          CHAIR HILLMAN:  Thank you very much.

 

          14      I'll introduce the panelists.  You will

 

          15      follow, please, according to the schedule

 

          16      and then we will pose questions after the

 

          17      third panel has concluded.

 

          18               Juliet Thompson, who is General

 

          19      Counsel for the Election Assistance

 

          20      Commission.  Michael Sciortino, Director of

 

          21      the Mahoning County Board of Elections in

 

          22      Ohio.  And John Lindback, Director of

 

          23      Elections for the State of Oregon.

 

          24               Welcome.  And thank you for coming


 

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           1      to join us.  Miss Thompson.

 

           2          MS. THOMPSON:  Thank you, Madam Chair

 

           3      and members of the commission, for this

 

           4      opportunity to give you a little bit of

 

           5      information as to the why and how of this

 

           6      policy guidance that is being issued on

 

           7      Statewide Voter Registration Lists.

 

           8               I will leave to my co-panelists

 

           9      the what of what we have provided and what

 

          10      we will be talking about here today.

 

          11               Let me start with the legal

 

          12      requirements with regard to Statewide Voter

 

          13      Registration Lists and the guidance that is

 

          14      required by the EAC.

 

          15               Section 311 of the Help America

 

          16      Vote Act 2002 requires that the Commission

 

          17      issue guidance on topics that are discussed

 

          18      Title III.  As many of you know, that

 

          19      includes Statewide Voter Registration

 

          20      Lists.  But also includes things such as

 

          21      Provisional Voting, Voting Equipment, in

 

          22      Section 301, as well as Voter Information

 

          23      and Voter Identification.

 

          24               Today, we're here to focus on


 

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           1      Statewide Voter Registration Lists, a

 

           2      portion of the Help America Vote Act which

 

           3      is covered in Section 303(a).  There

 

           4      Congress set forth a mandate that each

 

           5      state should develop and implement a

 

           6      single, uniformed, official centralized,

 

           7      interactive, computerized Statewide Voter

 

           8      registration list that is defined,

 

           9      maintained and administered at the state

 

          10      level.  And it is this that we attempted to

 

          11      clarify and explain and assist the states

 

          12      with developing a policy around what that

 

          13      means.

 

          14               Section 312 really tells us the

 

          15      how of this process, how is it that we are

 

          16      supposed to develop this guidance.  How is

 

          17      it that we are supposed to pose it to the

 

          18      public and how is that we are to make it

 

          19      final.

 

          20               There is a 4-step process, the

 

          21      first of which is publication, the notice

 

          22      of the proposed recommendations in the

 

          23      Federal Register.  That was done on April

 

          24      18th, with a comment period being open


 

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           1      until May 25th.

 

           2               But let's back up for just a

 

           3      moment and talk about how did we actually

 

           4      develop the guidance that was published in

 

           5      the Federal Register on April 18th.

 

           6               EAC started this process by

 

           7      holding a public meeting in which it

 

           8      solicited four members, four states to

 

           9      testify and give us information with regard

 

          10      to how they implemented and developed

 

          11      Statewide Voter Registration Databases in

 

          12      their states, many of which prior to the

 

          13      2004 election.      The states that were

 

          14      represented there were Michigan, Kentucky,

 

          15      North Carolina and South Carolina.  Each of

 

          16      the representatives discussed their types

 

          17      of voter registration lists; the processes

 

          18      that were undertaken to develop and

 

          19      implement those systems; the problems that

 

          20      they encountered along the way, as well as

 

          21      the maintenance and upgrade issues that

 

          22      they have faced since the implementation of

 

          23      those systems.

 

          24               This meeting was the kick-off of


 

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           1      the guidance develop process, an

 

           2      information gathering, if you will.  And

 

           3      the things that came out of that discussion

 

           4      were a few facts that were fairly

 

           5      self-evident.                   Number 1,

 

           6      states were already well underway in the

 

           7      process of planning for, developing and

 

           8      implementing Statewide Voter Registration

 

           9      Lists.

 

          10               Second, Statewide Voter

 

          11      Registration Lists are complex,

 

          12      computerized systems that require

 

          13      addressing various policy concerns in order

 

          14      to arrive at a plan for meeting the HAVA

 

          15      requirements.

 

          16               Number 3:  There are technical

 

          17      considerations that will affect the

 

          18      development continued operation and upgrade

 

          19      of these Statewide Voter Registration

 

          20      Lists.

 

          21               And last and fairly importantly,

 

          22      maybe even mostly importantly, the EAC must

 

          23      act quickly if it was to assist the states

 

          24      with this process.


 

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           1               In that mindset, EAC contracted

 

           2      with the National Academies of Science to

 

           3      impanel a working group, a group that was

 

           4      comprised of 15 members, state and local

 

           5      election officials who were chosen by the

 

           6      respective board of advisors and Standards

 

           7      Board of the EAC, as well as technical

 

           8      advisors, if you will, that were provided

 

           9      by the National Academies of Science.

 

          10               This group met for two days.  And

 

          11      their task was really two-fold.  First, to

 

          12      identify the concerns, issues or problems;

 

          13      and secondly, to assist us with identifying

 

          14      solutions to those problems.

 

          15               And they did a yeoman's task.

 

          16      They really worked very hard during those

 

          17      two days.  And I will leave to my

 

          18      colleagues at the table a further

 

          19      description of exactly what their

 

          20      activities were.

 

          21               But at the end of that 2-day

 

          22      process, EAC had the questions, and for the

 

          23      most part the answers to those questions

 

          24      that would formulate the guidance that was


 

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           1      proposed.

 

           2               The staff from the EAC took that

 

           3      direction from the working group and

 

           4      crafted it into a document, which was then

 

           5      circulated back to the working group

 

           6      members for their consideration to assure

 

           7      that we had accurately captured their

 

           8      thoughts and the processes of the 2-day

 

           9      meeting.

 

          10               That proposed guidance was, as I

 

          11      said earlier, published in the Federal

 

          12      Register on April 18th, in compliance with

 

          13      Section 312 and the first part of the

 

          14      process of finally adopting guidance on

 

          15      this issue.     Comments will be taken

 

          16      until May 25th.  And the reason that we are

 

          17      here today is to complete the second part

 

          18      of that statutory requirement in 312, and

 

          19      that is to hold -- I'm sorry -- the third

 

          20      part of that statutory requirement, and

 

          21      that is to hold a public hearing on the

 

          22      record in which members of the public are

 

          23      given the opportunity to comment on the

 

          24      record as to the appropriateness of the


 

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           1      guidance.

 

           2               And then the last and final

 

           3      portion of the statutory requirement is to

 

           4      publish the final recommendations in the

 

           5      Federal Register.  After we have had the

 

           6      opportunity to review the comments that are

 

           7      due in by May 25th, the EAC will consider

 

           8      those comments, will address them,

 

           9      incorporate them if appropriate, and

 

          10      publish the final guidance in the Federal

 

          11      Register.

 

          12          Now, I do want to make one note before

 

          13      I conclude my remarks.  And that is that I

 

          14      did mention that there were technical

 

          15      issues that needed to be addressed with

 

          16      regard to upgrade and maintenance of these

 

          17      Statewide Voter Registration Lists.

 

          18               EAC has already planned to have a

 

          19      meeting in May; again, we are contracting

 

          20      with the National Academies of Science to

 

          21      impanel a working group to discuss the

 

          22      technical issues that go with the

 

          23      technology, as we have coined it refresh,

 

          24      the upgrade, the maintenance, the


 

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           1      day-to-day operations of these systems.

 

           2          With that, Commissioners, my remarks

 

           3      are concluded.

 

           4          CHAIR HILLMAN:  Thank you, very much.

 

           5      Mr. Sciortino.

 

           6          MR. SCIORTINO:  Madam Chair Hillman,

 

           7      Commissioners Martinez, deGregorio and

 

           8      Soaries, my name is Michael Sciortino.  I'm

 

           9      Director of Mahoning County Board of

 

          10      Elections, located in Youngstown, Ohio.  I

 

          11      am currently serving as chair of the EAC

 

          12      Standards Board Executive Committee.

 

          13               Let me first say that it is truly

 

          14      an honor to be here before you today,

 

          15      regarding the development of HAVA Statewide

 

          16      Voter Registration Database.

 

          17               The guidance before you is

 

          18      basically broken down into three

 

          19      categories:  Introduction, scope and

 

          20      definitions and guidance on Statewide Voter

 

          21      Registration Lists.

 

          22               My testimony will focus on the

 

          23      background and authority of the EAC in

 

          24      developing guidance, a synopsis of the


 

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           1      thought processes that went into the scope

 

           2      and definition section and some comment on

 

           3      Section 3.

 

           4               My colleague, John Lindback,

 

           5      Oregon State Election Director and

 

           6      Co-Executive Board and Working Group member

 

           7      will cover Section 3 in greater detail.

 

           8               To begin with, the Help America

 

           9      Vote Act requires the chief election

 

          10      official in each state to implement a

 

          11      single, uniform, official, centralized,

 

          12      interactive computerized Statewide Voter

 

          13      Registration List.  That list is to be

 

          14      defined, maintained and administered at the

 

          15      state level and must contain the name and

 

          16      registration information of every legally

 

          17      registered voter in the state.

 

          18               The details of implementing these

 

          19      Voter Registration Lists were left to the

 

          20      states; however, Congress as you know,

 

          21      empowered the EAC to issue voluntary

 

          22      guidelines on this issue.

 

          23               HAVA makes it very clear for the

 

          24      EAC to develop guidance, so establishing a


 

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           1      starting point and framework for guidance

 

           2      development was paramount.

 

           3               As you know, Commissioner Martinez

 

           4      acted as the EAC's contact on this project.

 

           5      After some preliminary discussions with

 

           6      Commissioner Martinez, it was decided that

 

           7      a working group made of election officials,

 

           8      scientists from the National Academy of

 

           9      Sciences and computer experts would be the

 

          10      best way to assemble and experience the

 

          11      knowledge that would go into our guidance.

 

          12               I would like to read the names

 

          13      into the record so that these individuals

 

          14      and advisors be recognized for their hard

 

          15      work that went into developing the

 

          16      voluntary guidance that are before you

 

          17      today.

 

          18               Sarah Ball Johnson, Executive

 

          19      Director, State Board of Elections in

 

          20      Kentucky.  Louie Bernard, Clerk of Court,

 

          21      Natchitoches Parish, Louisiana.  David

 

          22      Caldwell, Data Processing Manager for

 

          23      Rebecca Vigil-Giron, Secretary of State of

 

          24      New Mexico.


 

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           1               Bill Campbell, City Clerk, City of

 

           2      Woburn, Massachusetts.  Kathleen DeWolfe,

 

           3      Director Elections Campaign and Finance for

 

           4      Deborah Markowitz, Secretary of State of

 

           5      Vermont.  John Lindback, Director of

 

           6      Elections in Oregon.

 

           7               Chris Nelson, Secretary of State,

 

           8      South Dakota.  Peggy Nighswonger, State

 

           9      Elections Director, Wyoming.  Todd Rokita,

 

          10      Secretary of State, Indiana.  Sue

 

          11      Sautermeister, Municipal Election

 

          12      Commissioner, City of Ridgeland.

 

          13               Christopher Thomas, Director of

 

          14      Elections, Michigan.  Hans von Spakovsky,

 

          15      Counsel to the Assistant Attorney General

 

          16      United States Department of Justice.

 

          17               Dr. Randall Hollinger (phonetic),

 

          18      Director AVN, VA Driver Systems.  Pamela

 

          19      Richard Walker (phonetic), Director Federal

 

          20      Government Affairs AA, MBA Driver Systems.

 

          21      Herb Lynn, Senior Scientist, National

 

          22      Academy of Sciences.  And Corey Kakusa

 

          23      (phonetic), Senior Associate, Calver

 

          24      Associates, Incorporated.


 

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           1              Upon assembling in Washington to

 

           2      formulate the guidance, it was clear from

 

           3      the initial comments that this guidance

 

           4      should in no way punish the pioneer states

 

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